William (Guillaume) III (Talvas) of Ponthieu, Count of Ponthieu

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III,_Count_of_Ponthieu

He was seigneur de Montgomery in Normandy and Count of Ponthieu. William was son of Robert II of Bellême and Agnes of Ponthieu. He succeeded his father as count of Ponthieu some time between 1105 and 1111.

His father Robert de Bellême had turned against Henry I on several occasions, had escaped capture at the battle of Tinchebrai in 1106. While serving as envoy for King Louis of France, he was arrested by Henry I and imprisoned for life.

William was naturally driven by this to oppose King Henry. In June of 1119, however, Henry I restored all his father's lands in Normandy. Sometime prior to 1126, William resigned the county of Ponthieu to his son Guy but retained the title of count. In 1135 Henry I again confiscated all his Norman lands to which William responded by joining count Geoffrey of Anjou in his invasion of Normandy after Henry I's death.

He married, abt. 1115, Helie of Burgundy, daughter of Eudes I, Duke of Burgundy. The Gesta Normannorum Ducum says that they had five children, three sons and two daughters.


1. Guy II. He assumed the county of Ponthieu during his father Talvas' lifetime, but died in 1147 predeceasing his father.

2. William, Count of Alençon.

3. John I, Count of Alençon, married Beatrix d'Anjou, daughter of Elias II, Count of Maine and Philippa, daughter of Rotrou III, Count of Perche.

4. Clemence married (abt. 1189) Juhel, son of Walter of Mayenne.

5. Adela (aka Ela) married William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey. She married, secondly, Patrick of Salisbury.

William married Helie of Burgundy. Helie (daughter of Eudes (Odo) I of Burgundy, Duke of Burgundy and Sibylla of Burgundy, Duchess of Burgundy) was born ca 1080, County of Burgundy, France; died 28 Feb 1141, Perseigne Abbey, Neufchâtel-en-Saosnois, France; was buried , Perseigne Abbey, Neufchâtel-en-Saosnois, France. [Group Sheet]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_II_of_Ponthieu

He was the son of William III of Ponthieu and Helie of Burgundy. He succeeded his father as Count of Ponthieu before 1129; this was during William's lifetime. Around 1137, he founded the Cistercian Valloires Abbey.

In 1146, he joined the Second Crusade under King Louis VII of France. He died of a disease on 25 December 1147 in Ephesus. He was succeeded by his son John I of Ponthieu.

His wife was called Ida; he had three children with her:

1. John I (d. 1191), Count of Ponthieu

2. Guido (d. between 1208 and 1218), Lord of Noyelles

3. Agnes, abbess in Montreuil

Guy married Ida. [Group Sheet]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Warenne,_3rd_Earl_of_Surrey

She was daughter of Count William III of Ponthieu, by his wife Helie daughter of Odo I, Duke of Burgundy. They had one child and sole-heiress, a daughter, Isabel de Warenne, 4th Countess of Surrey in her own right.

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Adela married William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey. William (son of William II de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey and Isabel de Vermandois) was born ca 1119, Lewes, East Sussex, England; died 1148, Battle of Mount Cadmus, Anatolia,Turkey; was buried , Unknown. [Group Sheet]

Adela married Patrick Evereaux FitzWalter, Earl of Salisbury. [Group Sheet]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_I,_Count_of_Ponthieu

He was the son of Guy II of Ponthieu and succeeded him as Count of Ponthieu in 1147. He married Beatrice of Saint-Pol, and was succeeded by his son William IV Talvas.

John married Beatrice of Saint-Pol. [Group Sheet]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabel_de_Warenne,_Countess_of_Surrey

She was the only surviving heir of William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey and his wife, Adela, the daughter of William III of Ponthieu.

She was the great-granddaughter of the first Norman Earl of Surrey, William and his Flemish wife Gundred. When her father died in the Holy Land c.1148 she inherited the earldom of Surrey and was married to William of Blois, the younger son of King Stephen, who became Earl through his marriage to her.

The marriage occurred at a critical moment in The Anarchy as part of the king's attempt to control the de Warenne lands. The couple did not have any children and after William's death in 1159, King Henry II's brother, William X, Count of Poitou sought her hand, but Thomas Becket refused a dispensation from affinity on the grounds of consanguinity. In April 1164, the countess married Hamelin of Anjou, a natural half-brother of King Henry, who became the Earl of Surrey. The countess lived an unusually long life, dying at age 73.

She and William of Blois had no children. Isabelle and her second husband Hamelin had four surviving children:

1. William de Warenne, 5th Earl of Surrey, only son and heir, who married Maud Marshal.

2. Clemence (aka Adela), mistress of her cousin King John, and by him the mother of Richard FitzRoy, feudal baron of Chilham, in Kent.

3. Ela, who married firstly Robert de Newburn and secondly William FitzWilliam of Sprotborough.

4.Maud (alias Matilda), who married firstly Henry Count d'Eu and Lord of Hastings, secondly Henry d'Estouteville, Seigneur de Valmont.

5. Isabel,who married firstly Robert de Lacy of Pontefract, and secondly Gilbert de l'Aigle, Lord of Pevensey.


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Isabella married Hamelin de Warenne, Earl of Surrey. Hamelin (son of Geoffrey Plantagenet, Count of Anjou) was born ca 1135, France; died 07 May 1202, Lewes, East Sussex, England; was buried , Lewes Priory Lewes Lewes District East Sussex, England. [Group Sheet]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_IV,_Count_of_Ponthieu

He was Count of Ponthieu, ruler of a small province in northern France. It was one of six feudal counties that eventually merged to become part of the Province of Picardy, in northern France. Its chief town is Abbeville.

He was son and heir of John (Jean) I, Count of Ponthieu (died 1191) by his third wife Beatrice de St Pol. His father was the son of Guy II, Count of Ponthieu (who died on the Second Crusade 1147) and grandson of William III of Ponthieu, also frequently called William III Talvas, and who represented the senior line of the lords of Montgomery, once trusted vassals and allies of William the Conqueror.

Talvas was married on August 20, 1195 to Alys, Countess of the Vexin, the daughter of King Louis VII of France. She was some eighteen years older than he, and was said by some to have been seduced by King Henry II of England while betrothed to his son, King Richard the Lionheart. Richard sent her back to her brother, King Philip II of France, refusing to marry his father's mistress.

Philip then arranged for Alys to marry William Talvas, with the intent that the couple would be childless, and he would thus gain control of Ponthieu, a small but strategically important county. However, Alys then gave birth to a daughter and heiress, Marie, in 1199. This daughter was the maternal grandmother of Eleanor of Castile, first wife of Edward I, King of England, to whom Ponthieu and the disputed Vexin inheritance would eventually pass as Eleanor's dowry. William Talvas died in 1221, his daughter Marie being his heiress.

William was an important army commander in the Anglo-French War (1202-1214). He also participated in the Albigensian Crusade, particularly in the Siege of Termes in 1210.
He led the left wing of the victorious French army in the Battle of Bouvines in 1214.



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William married Alys of France, Countess of Vexin. Alys (daughter of King Louis VII of France and Constance of Castile) was born 04 Oct 1160; died ca 1220; was buried , Abbey of Valloires, Picardie, France. [Group Sheet]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Warenne,_5th_Earl_of_Surrey

He was the son of Hamelin de Warenne and Isabel, daughter of William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey. His father Hamelin granted him the manor of Appleby, North Lincolnshire.

De Warenne was present at the coronation of John, King of England on 27 May 1199. When Normandy was lost to the French in 1204 he lost his Norman holdings, (in 1202 he was lieutenant of Gascony), but John recompensed him with Grantham and Stamford.

His first tenure of office as Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports began in 1204, and lasted until 1206. He was also a Warden of the Welsh Marches between 1208 and 1213.

William was one of the few barons who remained loyal to King John (who was his cousin) during the king?s difficulties with the barons, when they sought for the French prince to assume the English throne, and is listed as one of those who advised John to accede to the Magna Carta. His allegiance only faltered a few times when the king?s cause looked hopeless.

In March 1217 he again demonstrated his loyalty to England by supporting the young King Henry III, and he was also responsible for the establishment of Salisbury Cathedral.

Between the years 1200 and 1208, and during 1217-1226 he was to serve as the High Sheriff of Surrey. In 1214 he was again appointed Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports.

William married Maud Marshal, on 13 October 1225. They had a son and a daughter, John (1231-1304) succeeded his father as earl, while the daughter, Isabel de Warenne (c. 1228-1282), married Hugh d'Aubigny, 5th Earl of Arundel.

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William married Maude Marshal, Countess of Norfolk, Countess of Surrey. Maude (daughter of William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke and Isabel de Clare) was born 1192, Pembrokeshire, Wales; died 27 Mar 1248, Tintern, Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried , Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire, Wales. [Group Sheet]