John TATE

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Notes:

Source: Mentzel, Laura and Ethel Updike. Tate Families of the Southern States. p 169, 170, 185.

John was born in Northern Ireland and came to the colonies with this father in 1730. John Tate or Tait came to Augusta Co. VA from Pennsylvania. [Note: Some researchers have the location as being Bedford Springs in Lancaster Co. PA and Cumberland Co. PA, but this has not been documented.] He married Mary Doak and had five sons, James, John, William, Robert, and Thomas, plus a daughter whose name is not certain.

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Source: Riley, Agnes. The Pioneer Tate Family of Augusta County, VA. This booklet was first published in the National Genealogical Society Quarterly, 1969,
Vol 57, issue 3, p 179-192.

She indicates John Tate was born 1722 in Ireland, immigrated to Bedford Springs, PA and m Mary Doak in 1743. They had; Thomas, James, Eleanor, John and William Tate.

Recent research presents a convincing argument that John Tate's wife was actually Mary Mitchell. Please look at her record for the documentary evidence.

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Source: History Of Augusta County,Virginia; by J. Lewis Peyton; 1st addn. 1882; Pub. by Samuel M. Yost, Staunton, VA.

I received these notes from the owner of the book: "There are 6 short paragraphs dealing with the Tate family. The Tate section begins as follows, "The Tates came from the north of Ireland to Penn., and thence to Augusta about 1745. The first immigrant left four sons, James, William, John, and Robert. The descendants of the first brothers married among the Van Lears, Ewings, Moffetts and Finleys, of Augusta and Rockbridge."

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Site owner's note:

The Tates are a tangle to unravel. There are two lines that may spring from John Tate and Sarah Beaty. This John Tate descendants tended to stay in Augusta and Rockbridge Counties, VA and marry into other Scot-Irish families of the Shenandoah Valley i.e. the Campbells, McClungs, Stuarts, Finley, and Alexanders.

His brother Robert Tate, whose wife isn't known at this time, eventually settled in Washington Co. VA. His three sons, Col. John Tate, Robert Tate, and William Tate all played prominent roles in the history of Southwestern Virginia. They lived in four frontier counties(1) Botetourt Co., until 1772; (2) Fincastle Co., January 1773 to January 1777; (3) Washington Co., January 1777 to May 1786; (4) Russell Co., May 1786 until their deaths. They didn't move, but their land changed with formation of the counties.

Robert's descendants were the Traveling Tates. Their offspring founded Tatesville in Pulaski Co. KY or settled in Warren and Grundy Co. TN and DeKalb Co. AL. Robert's grandchildren ended up in Missouri, Texas, and Oklahoma.

To make things even more confusing, they married women named Mary and named their sons John, Robert, William, and Joseph. Because of this, it isn't hard for generations to be confused. For example, Robert Tate of Washington/Russell Counties married Mary ? and had Joseph, Alexander, John, Aaron, James and Robert Jr. He is confused with his nephew, Robert Tate, son of John Tate and Mary Mitchell. This Robert married Margaret McClung and had about 11 children. Some researchers have combined these two Robert's families. See what I mean about a tangle of Tates?

Some researchers have the parents of Col. John Tate, Robert Tate, and William Tate as being Robert Tate born 27 FEB 1691 in New Kent Co. VA and died 1759 in St. Paul's Parish,Hanover Co. VA. But given the ties to Augusta Co. and the intermarriage with the Mitchells by William Tate, brother to Col. John and Robert, this may not be likely.

Hopefully DNA testing will clarify some of these lines.

LAND RECORDS

Source:This land record was originally published in "Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia, 1745-1800. Extracted from the Original Court Records of Augusta County" by Lyman Chalkley.

John Tate
Date: Nov 19, 1747
Location: Augusta Co., VA
Property:309 1/2 acres in Beverley Manor; corner to James Lynn and John Tate; corner to David Steel.
Remarks: Acknowledged by Geo. Brackenridge 18 Nov 1747 and Ann releases dower. 27 current money Virginia.

Apr 5 1749, William Beverley sold 344 acres in Beverley Manor to John Teat adjoining James Linn, Steel's land, John Lockhart, and Brackenridge's line. (Augusta Co. VA Deed Book 2 p 273.)

May 22 1750, his adjoining land was mentioned in a deed from James Lynn to Andrew Lynn: 269 acres in Beverley Manor, on Samuel Doak's line, Buffler Hill; corner on John Teat and Samuel Wilson. Teste: Andrew Cowan, Elijah McClenachan, John Ramsey. (Augusta Co. VA Deed Book 2 p 286)

In 1750, John Tate's brother-in-law John Greer died in Augusta Co. Among the purchasers at Greer's estate sale were John Teat [Tate], John Mitchell, Thomas Teat [Tate], and Francis Beaty. (Augusta Co. VA Will Book 1 p 26)

Jun 28 1755, John Teat [Tate], plantationer, bought 160 acres in Beverley Manor from his brother-in-law Francis Beaty, surveyor, for £25 on Borden's lines, surveyed for James Lockhart, gent., being the place known as Beatey's well place. Witnesses, David Hay, John and Patrick Campbell, Thomas Teat [Tate]. (Augusta Co. VA Deed Book 7 p 338)

Nov 20 1759, Tate's land was mentioned in a deed from Helenor (Helander) Mitchell to Robert Mitchell in Beverley Manor, on Robert Wilson's line; corner John Teate [Tate], David Doack's [Doak] land; Jno. Lockart's corner. Teste: James Kowan. (Augusta Co. VA Deed Book 8 p 357)

John Tate
Date: Mar 18, 1760
Location: Augusta Co., VA
Property: 309 1/2 acres in Beverley Manor; corner James Lynn; corner David Steel.
Remarks: 67.10.0. Grantor, Thomas Baird/Beard.
(Augusta Co. VA Deed Book 8 p 359)

John Tate
Date: Nov 18, 1760
Location: Augusta Co., VA
Property:
200 acres in Borden's tract; corner to tract sold by Francis Beaty on Flat Spring Run; corner Thomas Berry.
Remarks: 5 shillings. Property conveyed by Borden, Jr., to David Kerr and by David and Katherine to grantor.

John Tate
Date: Aug 19, 1766
Location: Augusta Co., VA
Property: 180 acres; corner John Tate, Thomas Tate's line.
Remarks: Delivered to Nathaniel Steel, Apr 1773.

Mar 16, 1768
Location: Augusta Co., VA
Property: 202 1/2 acres in Beverley Manor, part of the tract Nathaniel formerly lived on; corner John Tate's land; corner John Fulton.
Remarks: Delivered to David Steel, 16 Nov 1771.

John Tate
Date: May 17, 1768
Location: Augusta Co., VA
Property: 200 acres; corner James Lynn and John Tate.
Remarks: Delivered to Pat. Campbell, 4 Aug 1773.

Sep 9 1768, both John Tate and his son John Tate Jr proved the will of Robert Wilson. Witnesses, Robert Mitchell, John Tate Sr, John Tate Jr; proved in court by John Tate and John Tate Jr. (Augusta Co. VA Will Book 4 p 106) On Feb 2 1769, Robert Wilson's estate was appraised by John Tate, Robert Alexander, John Fulton, David Doack. (Augusta Co. VA Will Book 4 p 108)

Oct 10 1769, Francis Beaty of Mecklenburg Co NC, Gent, gave power of attorney to his brother-in-law John Tate to sell all lands belonging to Francis, including land bought of John Greer, on Flat Spring Branch, joining the other land where Beaty last lived; also 200 acres joining Charles Berry. Teste: Robert Gay, John and James Beaty. (Augusta Co. VA Will Book 16 p 501)

1771 and 1772 brought the deaths of the husbands of two of John's sisters. On Feb 1771, Tate was a witness to the will of his brother-in-law John Mitchell; will proved in court Aug 20 1771. (Augusta Co. VA Will Book 4 p 120)

Nov 5 1771, Samuel Doak wrote his will, leaving John Tate and John Finley to advise the executors. The witnesses to Doak's will were John and James Mitchel, William Tate, John Tate Jr. Will proved May 19 1772 by James Mitchel and the Tates. David Doack qualified with John Tate, Nathaniel Steel. (Augusta Co. VA Will Book 4 p 123)

Mar 18 1772, John Tate and Mary sold [land?] to James Tate. Teste: William Campbell. Wm. Livingston. Thomas Tate. (Augusta Co. VA Deed Book 18 p 516)

May 15 1779, John and Mary Tate sold [land?] to Hance Patton. (Augusta Co. VA Deed Book 22 p 558)

Mar 11 1786, John Taite [Tate] Sr sold 400 acres to Thomas Stevenson delivered to Jacob Swallow Jun 1 1787, patented to said John Taite [Tate] on Pine Run, a branch of South River near South Mountain. Teste: Samuel McConkey, Anthony Mustoe. (Augusta Co. VA Deed Book 25 p 574)

WILL ABSTRACT

John Tate's will, dated Nov 21 1792, probated Apr 1 1801: to third son John; to oldest son Thomas; tract to John and Isaac Tate, sons of James deceased, his grandsons; daughter Eleanor Stuart; son Robert Tate; executors, son Robert Tate and son-in-law Benjamin Stewart.
[Augusta Co. VA Will Book 1 p 250]

Source: Johnson, Charles A. A narrative history of Wise County, Virginia Norton, Va.: Norton Press, 1938, p. 235.

Nov 21, 1792
Location: Augusta Co., VA
Remarks: John Tate's will--Third son, John; oldest son, Thomas, tract to John and Isaac Tate, sons of James, deceased, his grandsons; daughter, Eleanor Stuart; son, Robert Tate; son Robert and son-in-law Benj. Stewart, executors.
Book date: CC1-41
Prove date: Apr 1, 1801

Buried:
This may be the grave of John Tate at Tinkling Spring Presbyterian Church Cemetery, Fishersville, Augusta Co. VA.
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Died:
Virginia Land, Marriage, and Probate Records, 1639-1850
Name: John Tate
Date: 1 Apr 1801
Location: Augusta Co., VA
Notes: This probate record was originally published in "Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia, 1745-1800. Extracted from the Original Court Records of Augusta County" by Lyman Chalkley.
Remarks: Robert Tate, executor of John Tate, bond.
Description: Decedent
Book: CC1-81

John married Mary Mitchell Abt 1741, Pennsylvania. Mary (daughter of Thomas Mitchell and Eleanor (Helen)) was born ca 1710, Ulster Irelend; died Aft 1802, Augusta Co. VA. [Group Sheet]

1. LT. Thomas TATE was born 11 Jun 1744, Botetourt Co. VA; died 09 Feb 1833, Broad Ford, Augusta Co. VA.
2. Capt. James TATE was born 1746, Augusta Co. VA; died 15 Mar 1781, Guilford Court House, NC; was buried , Guilford Courthouse National Military Park, Greensboro, Guilford Co. NC.
3. Eleanor TATE was born 4 Nov 1747, Augusta Co. VA; died 1801, Tinkling Spring, Augusta Co. VA; was buried , Tinkling Spring Presbyterian Church Cemetery, Augusta Co. VA.
4. John TATE, Esquire was born 26 Feb 1749, Augusta Co. VA; died 13 Dec 1802, Augusta Co., VA; was buried , Old Providence ARP Church Cemetery, Spottswood, Augusta Co. VA.
5. Sarah TATE was born ca 1746, Augusta Co. VA.
6. William TATE was born 20 Nov 1753, Augusta Co. VA; died 15 Sep 1803, Russell Co. VA.
7. Robert TATE was born 08 Mar 1753, Augusta Co. VA; died 09 Jul 1832, Augusta Co., VA; was buried , Bethel Presbyterian Church Cemetery, Middlebrook, Augusta Co. VA.

Notes:

Although he has not yet been proven to be the progenitor of the Tates of Russell and Washington Counties, VA, he is a likely candidate. John was wounded in the siege of Londonderry Apr. 1689 and suffered ill effects the remainder of his life. His parents left Scotland and settled in Ulster.

There is a tie between the Tates and Beatys in Augusta Co. VA. One John Tate had land in Beverley Manor, Augusta Co., VA in 1749 and lived near Francis Beaty who had land in both Beverley Manor and Bordens surveys of Augusta Co.

On 10 Oct 1769 Francis Beaty Gent. Of Mecklenburg Co., NC Power of Attorney to John Tate, brother-in-law, of Augusta Co., VA to sell land belonging to Francis Beaty, including land purchased of John Kerr on Flat Spring Branch, adjacent to other land where I last lived before moving to NC. Also 200 acres adjacent to Charles Berry. Wit: Robert Gray, John and James Beaty. Ref: Chronicles of Scot-Irish in Virginia, by Lyman Chalkley, Vol. 3, p.501; Mecklenburg Co., NC Will Book G, p.81; Kershaw Co., SC Will book C, p.20; Book 1, p.31. Mrs. Edwina Epperson Muff.

The Tates are a tangle to unravel. There are two lines that may spring from John Tate and Sarah Beaty. John Tate II or Jr. mentioned in Augusta County is the one who married Mary Mitchell. His descendants tended to stay in Augusta and Rockbridge Counties, VA and marry into other Scot-Irish families of the Shenandoah Valley i.e. the Campbells, McClungs, Stuarts, Finley, and Alexanders.

The other line is Robert Tate, whose wife isn't known at this time, but he eventually settled in Washington Co. VA. His three sons, Col. John Tate, Robert Tate, and William Tate all played prominent roles in the history of Southwestern Virginia. They lived in four frontier counties(1) Botetourt Co., until 1772; (2) Fincastle Co., January 1773 to January 1777; (3) Washington Co., January 1777 to May 1786; (4) Russell Co., May 1786 until their deaths. They didn't move, but their land changed with formation of the counties.

Robert's descendants were the Traveling Tates. Their offspring founded Tatesville in Pulaski Co. KY or settled in Warren and Grundy Co. TN and DeKalb Co. AL. Robert's grandchildren ended up in Missouri, Texas, and Oklahoma.

To make things even more confusing, they married women named Mary and named their sons John, Robert, William, and Joseph. Because of this, it isn't hard for generations to be confused. For example, Robert Tate of Washington/Russell Counties married Mary ? and had Joseph, Alexander, John, Aaron, James and Robert Jr. He is confused with his nephew, Robert Tate, son of John Tate and Mary Mitchell. This Robert married Margaret McClung and had about 11 children. Some researchers have combined these two Robert's families. See what I mean about a tangle of Tates?

Some researchers have the parents of Col. John Tate, Robert Tate, and William Tate as being Robert Tate born 27 FEB 1691 in New Kent Co. VA and died 1759 in St. Paul's Parish,Hanover Co. VA. But given the ties to Augusta Co. and the intermarriage with the Mitchells by William Tate, brother to Col. John and Robert, this may not be likely.

Hopefully DNA testing will clarify some of these lines.

John married Sarah Beaty. Sarah was born 1687, Ulster, Ireland. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

These are not confirmed parents of Robert Tate. Other researchers has his parents being Robert Tate born 27 FEB 1691 in New Kent Co. VA and died 1759 in St. Paul's Parish,Hanover Co. VA.

Hopefully DNA testing will clarify some of these lines.